[QUOTE=I Doo;10739]Venting continued. We were up in Eagle River over the weekend on our club trip. I was riding in a group. After just looking back in my mirrors and seeing just my group I was past by 2 Yamahas just flying, passing on a turn and scared the crap out of me. Never saw them coming. Heard them once they were next to me. I wished I had a paint ball gun mounted to my sled and I would have let them have it!! This crap has to stop!! Wait untill a stop sign. Or at least make sure the sled in front of you is awear your there. We came to an intersection where part of our group had already turned. The two guys went straight. Our group leader was going to stop them and ask them whats up with that driving. And people wonder why others don't like snowmobilers. How does the old saying go. A few spoil it for the many. Rant over.[/QUOTE]
I too ran into the same guys I think. The second guy almost took my ski tips off. People need to realize that most of us are just out to ride and enjoy the thousands of dollars we have invested in our sport. Having fun doesnt mean having to risk life and limb.
Grade Etiquette
We all have horror stories. I can’t tell you how many times I come to a stop sign and say to my wife “Did you see that F@#$%^* idiot”! Many times it’s not the lead sled but #2 or #3 trying to keep up. Why do you have to keep up? There are stops signs and if they are real friends, they will wait for you to make sure you are OK. I pulled over for a group Saturday night and #3 guy came by and "roosted me" and almost went off the trail! That's the thanks I got for being polite. I love this sport but it is sad that there are some who think about no one but themselves.
I’m trying to come up with ideas to help the problem. My first thought was to put up some signs “reminding” riders the rules of the road. On the grade, “Keep you hands on the bars” or "Slow for Oncoming Traffic". On the trails, “No Passing” etc.
Then I think of the last time I was on the grade going through Long Lake. There are a ton of “10 MPH” signs along the trail. It didn’t stop a number of groups who went by us at 40 to 50 mph….again telling me with one hand that their buddies we behind them
There is just not much that can fix stupidity. Unfortunately the hot rods probably don't frequent these snowmobile websites so this is, as we say...venting.
I’m trying to come up with ideas to help the problem. My first thought was to put up some signs “reminding” riders the rules of the road. On the grade, “Keep you hands on the bars” or "Slow for Oncoming Traffic". On the trails, “No Passing” etc.
Then I think of the last time I was on the grade going through Long Lake. There are a ton of “10 MPH” signs along the trail. It didn’t stop a number of groups who went by us at 40 to 50 mph….again telling me with one hand that their buddies we behind them
There is just not much that can fix stupidity. Unfortunately the hot rods probably don't frequent these snowmobile websites so this is, as we say...venting.
[QUOTE=Keemez;10722] The regulations handbook only says the following:
Law Change—Snowmobilers must stay on the right side of the trail and proceed with caution when approaching oncoming snowmobiles.
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This is shown on page 6 of the Snowmobile Handbook:
[url]http://dnr.wi.gov/org/es/enforcement/DO ... obRegs.pdf[/url]
Personally, I wouldn't be opposed to a rule stating that you must slow to 20-25 when within 100 feet of approaching oncoming snowmobiles, people, or ice shanties.
Off topic a bit, 10mph within 100 feet of the shanties law is too slow IMHO, within 50 feet okay, and wouldn't hurt to have some type of designation of an occupied or unoccupied shanty,such as an orang flag or cone when it is occupied.
Law Change—Snowmobilers must stay on the right side of the trail and proceed with caution when approaching oncoming snowmobiles.
QUOTE]
This is shown on page 6 of the Snowmobile Handbook:
[url]http://dnr.wi.gov/org/es/enforcement/DO ... obRegs.pdf[/url]
Personally, I wouldn't be opposed to a rule stating that you must slow to 20-25 when within 100 feet of approaching oncoming snowmobiles, people, or ice shanties.
Off topic a bit, 10mph within 100 feet of the shanties law is too slow IMHO, within 50 feet okay, and wouldn't hurt to have some type of designation of an occupied or unoccupied shanty,such as an orang flag or cone when it is occupied.
[QUOTE=Tom;10765]We all have horror stories. I can’t tell you how many times I come to a stop sign and say to my wife “Did you see that F@#$%^* idiot”! Many times it’s not the lead sled but #2 or #3 trying to keep up. Why do you have to keep up? There are stops signs and if they are real friends, they will wait for you to make sure you are OK. I pulled over for a group Saturday night and #3 guy came by and "roosted me" and almost went off the trail! That's the thanks I got for being polite. I love this sport but it is sad that there are some who think about no one but themselves.
I’m trying to come up with ideas to help the problem. My first thought was to put up some signs “reminding” riders the rules of the road. On the grade, “Keep you hands on the bars” or "Slow for Oncoming Traffic". On the trails, “No Passing” etc.
Then I think of the last time I was on the grade going through Long Lake. There are a ton of “10 MPH” signs along the trail. It didn’t stop a number of groups who went by us at 40 to 50 mph….again telling me with one hand that their buddies we behind them There is just not much that can fix stupidity. Unfortunately the hot rods probably don't frequent these snowmobile websites so this is, as we say...venting.[/QUOTE]
The 10 mph on the grade in long lk are atv speed imits to keep the dust down, although there IS one 10 mph sign out of the 1/2 dozen or so that has the ATV/SLED symbol on it.
Also,....we see these signs all the time, but never see the speed limit "ENDS" sign after the control zone.
One other point when it comes to signs and etiquette,....I believe the use of stop signs at every driveway that crosses a trail is ridiculous. There needs to be some disgression between the need for a stop sign vs. yeild sign.
I am all for stops at driveways with bad sight lines, but when there is a clear veiw of the entire crossing and a good distance in each direction I think a "DRIVEWAY/YEILD" sign would be far more effective.
I’m trying to come up with ideas to help the problem. My first thought was to put up some signs “reminding” riders the rules of the road. On the grade, “Keep you hands on the bars” or "Slow for Oncoming Traffic". On the trails, “No Passing” etc.
Then I think of the last time I was on the grade going through Long Lake. There are a ton of “10 MPH” signs along the trail. It didn’t stop a number of groups who went by us at 40 to 50 mph….again telling me with one hand that their buddies we behind them
There is just not much that can fix stupidity. Unfortunately the hot rods probably don't frequent these snowmobile websites so this is, as we say...venting.[/QUOTE]The 10 mph on the grade in long lk are atv speed imits to keep the dust down, although there IS one 10 mph sign out of the 1/2 dozen or so that has the ATV/SLED symbol on it.
Also,....we see these signs all the time, but never see the speed limit "ENDS" sign after the control zone.
One other point when it comes to signs and etiquette,....I believe the use of stop signs at every driveway that crosses a trail is ridiculous. There needs to be some disgression between the need for a stop sign vs. yeild sign.
I am all for stops at driveways with bad sight lines, but when there is a clear veiw of the entire crossing and a good distance in each direction I think a "DRIVEWAY/YEILD" sign would be far more effective.
[QUOTE=snoway;10777]The 10 mph on the grade in long lk are atv speed imits to keep the dust down, although there IS one 10 mph sign out of the 1/2 dozen or so that has the ATV/SLED symbol on it.
Also,....we see these signs all the time, but never see the speed limit "ENDS" sign after the control zone.
One other point when it comes to signs and etiquette,....I believe the use of stop signs at every driveway that crosses a trail is ridiculous. There needs to be some disgression between the need for a stop sign vs. yeild sign.
I am all for stops at driveways with bad sight lines, but when there is a clear veiw of the entire crossing and a good distance in each direction I think a "DRIVEWAY/YEILD" sign would be far more effective.[/QUOTE]
I have to agree on the speed limit and stop signs, there should be a speed zone end sign. We also need to get rid of all of the DNR stop signs. Do we really need a stop sign in the middle of the woods when the road or driveway we are crossing is unplowed? I've have heard they are there for low snow conditions, a yeild sign should be enough of a warning and would also keep the trails in better shape. Know one would have to stop and spin their track to take off
Also,....we see these signs all the time, but never see the speed limit "ENDS" sign after the control zone.
One other point when it comes to signs and etiquette,....I believe the use of stop signs at every driveway that crosses a trail is ridiculous. There needs to be some disgression between the need for a stop sign vs. yeild sign.
I am all for stops at driveways with bad sight lines, but when there is a clear veiw of the entire crossing and a good distance in each direction I think a "DRIVEWAY/YEILD" sign would be far more effective.[/QUOTE]
I have to agree on the speed limit and stop signs, there should be a speed zone end sign. We also need to get rid of all of the DNR stop signs. Do we really need a stop sign in the middle of the woods when the road or driveway we are crossing is unplowed? I've have heard they are there for low snow conditions, a yeild sign should be enough of a warning and would also keep the trails in better shape. Know one would have to stop and spin their track to take off
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Speed on the Grade
:mad:To the SOB who approached me on the grade this weekend thanks buddy, never slowed and was doing at least 60. I slowed to 20 so that makes 80, crap blasted my machine everywhere which included gravel, if I could send you a bill you bet I would.
[QUOTE=410shooter;10855]:mad:To the SOB who approached me on the grade this weekend thanks buddy, never slowed and was doing at least 60. I slowed to 20 so that makes 80, crap blasted my machine everywhere which included gravel, if I could send you a bill you bet I would.[/QUOTE]
I had 2 people do that to me last weekend. My sled is brand new (not that it matters) and doesn't need to be blasted by ice, dirt and rocks. I know those people will never read this but it helps to vent!!!:mad:
I had 2 people do that to me last weekend. My sled is brand new (not that it matters) and doesn't need to be blasted by ice, dirt and rocks. I know those people will never read this but it helps to vent!!!:mad:
SKI-DOO 2005 GTX 600 HO
QUESTION? WHEN YOU TURN ON YOUR SNOWMOBILE, DOES IT RETURN THE FAVOR??
QUESTION? WHEN YOU TURN ON YOUR SNOWMOBILE, DOES IT RETURN THE FAVOR??
I like to live by one simple rule. And that's the Golden Rule. Do unto others as you'd have done to you. Not the anti-Golden Rule, which is, do unto others then split. We shouldn't need a law to enforce that. And we don't. Those who abide by the rule, do so. Those self-serving bastards that think they are the only ones that matter, will do what they do, law or no law. It's a shame, but it only takes one bad apple to spoil the whole bunch. While filling up at the gas station the other weekend, this guy pulls in with his sleds that were loud as hell. So loud, they were quite annoying. It was obvious that he'd tweaked them so. It was at that moment that I realized why some people hate snowmobiles. And to the *******s that came up behind me and jumped on my ass, trying to pass because they had to ride behind me for 20 seconds.... I hoped you liked my hand signal. God forbid... you treat another rider with some common courtesy. Or consider the fact, that there may be children on our trails. Of course, us locals know not to ride on the weekends.... and it was a clear reminder. It also made me wonder why I put so much blood, sweat, and tears into the sport/site. But it's certainly not for them. It's for those of you who really do understand the true spirit of the snowmobile rider.
:sledder:
:sledder:
Not to mention the geniuses who think we're in the uk. I had a guy last weekend just north of benson lake road come around the corner on my side of the trail, he had to lock up the brakes and then never bothered to steer to his side of the trail:mad:. He thought being dead center was far enough luckily I was going slow enough to safley get my right ski slighty off the trail, any further I'd have been in the brush. It's amazing that with the amount of traffic that if you huge the right side of the trail on a saturday afternoon you can still ride on what seems to be fresh groomed trail.
STAY RIGHT!
STAY RIGHT!