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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:20 am
by toolman
Perhaps the better way of saying that is, when you have the mirrors or you know there is a group that has come up behind you, pull over and let them go by so they can go [U]faster![/U] Faster may only be 5 or 10 miles an hour but it sure can make a difference, especially when it seems you come up to a lot of groups going 25 or 30 miles an hour!
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:59 am
by 05FireCat600SP
[QUOTE=toolman;1383]Perhaps the better way of saying that is, when you have the mirrors or you know there is a group that has come up behind you, pull over and let them go by so they can go [U]faster![/U] Faster may only be 5 or 10 miles an hour but it sure can make a difference, especially when it seems you come up to a lot of groups going 25 or 30 miles an hour![/QUOTE]
Good call:thumbup:
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:47 am
by toolman
Thanks!!
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 3:56 pm
by Matt
Agreed. This sounds a little strange, but when I'm out riding, I tend to get into a bit of a rhythm where everything is just clicking. It's kindof this natural flow and it's this feeling that has me hooked on snowmobiling for life. Zen-like. That's what I enjoy about the sport; that peaceful, charged feeling, just you and your machine, mind adrift yet incredibly sharp and focused in an almost super-conscious way. That only really happens for me anyway when I'm just cruising along at a natural, comfortable pace, and it's strangely disruptive to be taken out of that mindset.
The slow poke sightseers out there have every right to the trail and I in no way wish to deny them of that, but they must realize that they're being selfish by not letting groups past when they know they're present. It's unfortunate when the actions of one hinder the enjoyment of the sport for another. That goes for idiots on the wrong side of the trail, people drinking and riding, people blowing all the snow off the corners, people riding over their heads, people running race cans (note I didn't say aftermarket exhaust. There are some cans out there now that are plenty quiet and perfectly acceptable), people dropping language that would offend a sailor at pit stops where there are families and children present... not just the slow pokes.
Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:32 am
by SpecK
I think the good group leaders are the ones that will look back at almost every intersection or stop and see if there are people behind. I for one usually bring up the rear of our group. I dont like it when you got guys riding your butt waiting to get by. I absolutely hate it when faster sleds have to get in your group they cant wait so they will pass one or two sleds in the group. Have a little patience before trying to kill yourself trying to pass me or someone else at speed on a narrow trail. I hate holding up faster sleds so I am constantly looking back because I know I am not the fastest guy out there. Everyone needs to stay patient and stay safe out there. And check your mirrors.
Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:27 pm
by toolman
So I noticed this weekend several night time speed limit signs. I for one don't have a problem with the 55 speed limit after dark. However, I noticed some signs that say 55 and some that said 50? Just wondering if anyone can shed some light on this?
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:51 am
by I Doo
The law is no faster than 55mph at night. However the speed can be reduced by sign anywhere on the trail system. You must drive the speed limit posted!
Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:42 pm
by Dardevil3
the law has a sunset in July. It was a one year trial for the state of Wisconsin. If you dont like the law you can go to this web site and see what you can do so it does not become a permanent law.
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:57 pm
by I Doo
[QUOTE=Dardevil3;1481]the law has a sunset in July. It was a one year trial for the state of Wisconsin. If you dont like the law you can go to this web site and see what you can do so it does not become a permanent law.
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http://www.noto55.com[/URL][/QUOTE]
Both my Assembly man and Senator sounded like it would be the new law next year. He said all groups already agreed on it. Groups being Wisconsin Snowmobile Association and DNR and State Officials. Good luck trying to change that!
Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:05 pm
by Dardevil3
I dont support this law for a number of reasons.
First off.... I get out of work at 5pm so if I follow this law there is no time I would ever get to open my sled up whether its a lake, grade or trail. Why did I buy a $8000 sled when I could have just bought myself a old 440 that only goes 60?
Second... The law was pushed by the DNR with no statistics presented to what speeds the deaths of previously years where caused at. Some people loose control and hit trees at 25mph and die... some hit trees at 70mph and live. Who pulled 55mph out of thier ass?
Third.... They (DNR) spent $12,500 on radar guns this year, bought brand new sleds and 4 place trailers. All added up to over $100,000. This money was taken out of the WI state trail fund that goes to our trails! But rememeber, your taxes still pay for the overtime and extras the DNR is supposedly using to enforce. HERE'S the kicker! None of the money from the tickets written out will come back to our trail system. It is basically a DNR cash cow funded by us.
Fourth... as people have said, we are a community. Some people dont like how others ride some dont like the way others act. Regardless, we should be able to police ourselves without intervention from the state.
#5 and maybe the most important.... you can not police stupidity! People die from riding beyond thier ability.... they dont die because there is no speed limit.
Lets educate.... not legislate!
As the statistics stand we are about 4 deaths behind last years death rate. Which basically proves the law has done nothing if you take into account the late start of winter and the lack of snow in usually high snow areas of the state.