100 Mile Snow Safari Forum

I am getting rid of my old 2 stroke Cat and buying a 4 stroke Ski doo.

I wanted to see if anyone is riding or has ridden a long track sled on the Forest County trails? I found a great deal on a 4-stroke Renegade
Adrenaline and am thinking of buying it. Has anyone ridden anything longer than a traditional 120 or so track sled in the area? My only experience with a 136 track has been riding solo on one of our 2-ups. I am
wondering if I should go with the long track Renegade Adrenaline (137") or the shorter track TnT (120"). Either would be the 4 stroke engine.



Any thoughts or advice would be appreciated.

Thanks, and hope to see you on the trail.

We have a couple of four strokes and I wouldn't go back to a 2 stroke (nothing against 2 strokes though). Ive also been questioning a longer track and am going to really trying to do some research this year. I know one the criteria u have to ask yourself is how much off trail riding are you doing. At home here our farm is about 1000acres so I have plenty of off trail riding. However i'm sure i put alot more miles on,on the trail vs "boondocking". The other question I would have to add is:are guys studding these tracks? The downfall to that of course is more studs=more weight and more money.

My dad has a 07 switchback which i know is a 2stroke whereas your going with a 4stroke. His long track really makes for a smooth ride. The only problem is the ski pressure has to be set for making all these turns. with the longer track, at least my dads sled, has a tenency to pick up the inside ski. But like i said all you need to do is adjust some pressure. I love riding his sled. if your planning on trails/boondocking then its the sled for you. but if your looking for something that you really want to zip around and dont plan on much boondocking the shorter track is for you.

[QUOTE=cedarburger;13390]I am getting rid of my old 2 stroke Cat and buying a 4 stroke Ski doo.

I wanted to see if anyone is riding or has ridden a long track sled on the Forest County trails? I found a great deal on a 4-stroke Renegade
Adrenaline and am thinking of buying it. Has anyone ridden anything longer than a traditional 120 or so track sled in the area? My only experience with a 136 track has been riding solo on one of our 2-ups. I am
wondering if I should go with the long track Renegade Adrenaline (137") or the shorter track TnT (120"). Either would be the 4 stroke engine.



Any thoughts or advice would be appreciated.

Thanks, and hope to see you on the trail.[/QUOTE]

I know several people that ride long tracks and have no problems. Most of the new long tracks have the rails tipped up in the back so that they handle like a short track sled but float in deep snow like a long track. The only experience I have was jumping off my short track Polaris and rode a AC Crossover, I could not tell the differenct in the tight woods until we switched back and I got back on my sled. The short track does turn better but when the trails get bumpy the long track floats over the bumps better. I think that you would get used to what ever you buy, you may have to play with the setup to suit your riding style but you have to do that with any sled. Good luck on your decision

Thanks to all of you for your thoughts on this. I think that I will probably get used to the longer track and I for sure want a 4 stroke. The real challenge on that 440 was keeping up with my buddies after we got out ofthe turns (they all have 600cc and up sleds), and they would literally be gone on the straights or across lakes. This was an even bigger issue when we road up to the UP along powerline trails, etc. I know that they
will now have an advantage in the turns since they are all 2 strokes, but hopefully I'll be able to make up the difference when we get out of them. This way they won't have to keep waiting for me.

Since my past experience on a long track was on our AC 4-stroke (non-turbo) touring models (which we still have). I am also assume that the weight difference (I believe the Gade is approx. 100# lighter) will also be a positive factor.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this sled pushing through the corners and putting dual carbides on it? I can add 6" carbides to the center and move the OEM 4 inchers to the outside. From what I understand the Ripsaw does not need to be picked unless racing on ice.

I am also thinking about adding mirrors, shield heater, and 12 vdc outlet for GPS.

Thank again...

I hate to say it, but if anyone tries to give you an absolute answer to this question one way or another, they are potentially doing you a dis-service. The right answer to this question really depends on many factors - where you ride, how agressively you ride, and how big you are, to name a few! Tons of folks ride just fine w/o studs. Best suggestion I can make is to talk to the people you know - people whom you can compare yourself and your riding to, based on first hand knowledge.

Now, personally, I've been riding a Vector with a studded 121" Ripsaw the past few seasons - but I ride very aggressively. While I feel the right stud/carbide package helps me with overall handling, for me it's really mostly about braking, and the reduced braking distance is very noticeable, and very re-assuring. (I've also ridden the Ripsaw w/o studs, as point of comparison.) I just got a new '11 Nytro 4 stroke, with that same 121" Ripsaw and the very first thing I did with it was put 144 Fast-Trac TGII studs down the middle. I'm absolutely sold on studs and am unlikely to ever seriously ride without them.

To your other comment, like 'Hawk says, the newer cross county long tracks have the rear of the track curved up so that, in theory, it only engages in powder or in the bumps/moguls, and reviewers have backed it up saying that the newer long tracks will handle like short tracks. Powder's not really an issue if most of your riding is groomed trail here in WI. But bumps, on the other hand.... I was tempted to look at a longer track, but the price was right on the 121", and it's what I'm used to anyway. That said, there are and will continue to be times when I'm wishing I was on a 136", particularly towards the end of any given saturday up north that's seen a ton of traffic on the day. The moguls just start eating my up, and I end up feeling my age

I've been riding a long track for almost 7 years and will never own another short track again.

:thinksnow:

[QUOTE=CRZ;13403]I've been riding a long track for almost 7 years and will never own another short track again.

:thinksnow:[/QUOTE]

7 foot tall guys like you NEED 10 foot long machines. :redgrin:

[QUOTE=Keemez]7 foot tall guys like you NEED 10 foot long machines. [/QUOTE]Especially if you live in a six foot town! :coolcat:

[QUOTE=Keemez;13404]7 foot tall guys like you NEED 10 foot long machines. :redgrin:[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE=Jim;13405]Especially if you live in a six foot town! :coolcat:[/QUOTE]

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